David Hale, writer for ESPN, joins me to discuss his recent article on turnovers in college football. He talks about how game situation affects turnovers, and how these big plays can have interesting psychological consequences on the other team (e.g. Miami's turnover chain in 2017). We also discuss the catastrophe of Florida State, and whether to back or fade them. David also provides his thoughts on Clemson and Dabo Swinney's early season approach to coaching.